Bonne Terre tightens up on truck traffic
City creates routes for through-truck traffic
By TERESA RESSEL
Daily Journal Staff Writer
Daily Journal Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 15, 2008 11:56 AM CDT
On Tuesday night, the City Council amended the truck route ordinance, removing those two streets from the through-truck route list. The amended ordinance will only include U.S. 67, Route K, Highway 47, North Division Street, Berry Road, and Raider Road.
Trucks would be allowed for local deliveries and a land-locked business. There is a separate and more extensive list for trucks making local deliveries.
Police Chief Doug Calvert said he would begin enforcing the ordinance Monday morning because truck drivers have already been warned.
By ordinance, a driver must follow the routes if the truck or commercial vehicle’s gross vehicle weight is more than 15,000 pounds
Also during the meeting, the council approved a fund transfer of $118,000 from the General Fund to the Transportation fund. City Manager Larry Barton explained this money came from a CD and would be an addition to the funds currently budgeted for transportation projects this fiscal year, which began Oct. 1. Before the council could start on a new set of paving projects, they would have to put out the project for bids.
Joe Tyree asked what streets were on the new list to get paved and he asked if streets in the Hillcrest Subdivision were on that list. Mayor Fritz Gower said they don’t have a list completed yet but Hillcrest was a priority for him.
In other matters, Mike Johnson asked the council if they would be interested in hearing about his proposed program to clean up town and help the elderly make repairs.
Gower said he was interested in hearing about this program but added a resident involved in World Changers asked him to come up with a list of elderly residents who needed help with house repairs. He asked Johnson to come up with a list, as well.
Johnson also asked if they could get a volunteer to serve as a park and recreation director, a position the parks board has asked for. The city would have to use general funds to hire a park director — not park funds. The city has a park sales tax but that money can only be used for capital improvements to the parks.
Tyree asked why the city needed a parks director when they’d never had one before. Barton, who is working on a job description for the position, said the city has had parks directors before, and he had been one of them.
Tyree asked if they could use the money they are thinking about spending on a park and recreation director and spend that on streets, too.
Alderman Ed Hottle said he is looking at a community development block grant to make paving improvements to Hillcrest Subdivision. Barton said there’s also a neighborhood improvement grant where residents could share in the cost.
Alderman Ron Elders and LeeRoy Calvert reminded the audience that the city could be eligible for more grants if it had a property tax. Voters have turned down proposals to reinstate a property tax several times.
Elders said they are one of only maybe two cities in the state without a city property tax. He believes they would only need a minimal to moderate property tax to help them get grants.
Also during the public comment part of the meeting, a resident who lives on Columbia and owns several houses in the neighborhood, complained that water coming from culvert pipes is causing problems for his house and his neighbors. He said his foundation is settling and his house is getting mold. He said there are other residents in the area being affected.
Gower said it sounds like this is a real critical problem that needs to be addressed.
Also during the meeting, a veteran said he didn’t think the bench in the Wedge should be painted like a flag. He said flags should be flown and not sat on. Johnson then said he thought the flag was not a full replica so it was socially acceptable.
During the mayor’s report, Gower said he is in constant contact with the Missouri Department of Transportation and the county commissioners to try to get the bridge on Berry Road reopened and the Hedgeapple crossover replaced with an outer road.
Alderman Calvert asked Chief Calvert if Out R Mines was under new management. Calvert said the bar will be under new management.
In the police’s monthly bar report, there were two incidents listed at that bar in September. One involved a person who was causing a disturbance in the bar and refused to leave. The other involved a minor who was “over-served alcoholic beverages.” The minor was arrested, as well as an employee, who was found in possession of a controlled substance.
Also during the meeting, the council approved a pay request from Essex Contracting for work at the Northwest Wastewater Treatment Plant. The council lowered the sewer tap connection fee from $1,500 to $1,000 and changed the water connection fee from a flat fee of $450 to $500 plus the cost of materials.
The council decided to discuss the parks and recreation director position and park pavilion reservation forms at their work session. They also welcomed members of Boy Scout Pack 432 who sat in on the 70-minute meeting.
Teresa Ressel is a reporter for the Daily Journal and can be reached at 573-431-2010, ext. 179 or at tressel@dailyjournalonline.com.
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Zip Line posted on Saturday, October 25th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
All but two people should be fired.
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smokey posted on Saturday, October 25th, 2008 at 9:19 am
So, Zip Line.....It seems you're not happy w/BTPD. Are you saying that in your opinion, the entire department should be fired???? If so - why??????
grama posted on Wednesday, October 22nd, 2008 at 8:01 pm
Till U actually live on Church Street, you will never know the joy of smelling the fumes and tearing up of a brand new road....
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TO THE JOURNAL: DON'T KNOW WHO IS APPROVING THESE BUT THE WORD YOU TOLD ME TO EDIT IS IN THE BIBLE. HAS TO DO WITH WHAT YOU WEAR ON YOUR FEET.
HELLO: ANYONE AT HOME.
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Zip Line posted on Wednesday, October 22nd, 2008 at 11:07 am
We have gone from truck traffic to the prison, wow.
The deal with the prison was over water usage if I remember correctly. It don't really matter. We are talking about a backwards community anyway. A bulldozer and a gas truck could work wonders in this rat hole.
The deal with the prison was over water usage if I remember correctly. It don't really matter. We are talking about a backwards community anyway. A bulldozer and a gas truck could work wonders in this rat hole.
tiredofthebull posted on Tuesday, October 21st, 2008 at 11:03 pm
When was the last time someone checked.... isn't the prison in Bonne Terre OUTSIDE city limits????
Why would the state pay taxes to a city that isn't affected by property lines?
Why would the state pay taxes to a city that isn't affected by property lines?
just me posted on Tuesday, October 21st, 2008 at 9:10 pm
Doesn't the prison give revenue to the city in which they are located in the form of State Taxes to them. I was under the impression that they do. That is how Potosi has grown and are able to have nice streets to drive on etc. There is corruption in the City government in Bonne Terre. The city is full of nepotism.
Also with the prison there, the city uses inmates to perform jobs that could otherwise be given to men and women that are not incarcerated. Folks these people messed up they are in prison and taking jobs that could go to some hard working people in the city of BT. Just my two cents. Maybe more later who knows. BTW I do go to the council meetings and listen to all the city government meetings, so it is not like I am not a concerned citizen.
Also with the prison there, the city uses inmates to perform jobs that could otherwise be given to men and women that are not incarcerated. Folks these people messed up they are in prison and taking jobs that could go to some hard working people in the city of BT. Just my two cents. Maybe more later who knows. BTW I do go to the council meetings and listen to all the city government meetings, so it is not like I am not a concerned citizen.
anomalouspropagation posted on Tuesday, October 21st, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Autonomy is why they do this. In the future, when the leadbelt grows to metropolitan criteria-long way away, they will need their own infrastructure. The great company SEARS learned this lesson the hard way and it is called "Economies of Scale". One day you get so big you can't take care of it all and then you start reverting to the smaller scale model. WalMart is finding this out and the old addage "too large to fail" hasn't helped the big 3, Wallstreet, nor the incorporated cities under a "proposed" plan above.
tiredofthebull posted on Tuesday, October 21st, 2008 at 7:32 am
TIred of people, why does Desloge need to spend 20 million to make it's own water system?
The smart thing to do is Desloge and Park Hills join. THink of the benefits -
Full time Fire Dept = Lower Insurance for all citizens.
Joint water, streets, parks, etc.
2 highways accesses and an industrial park.
Within a few years, could very easily incorporate Leadington and have more highway than Farmington.
But, Desloge needs to be just like Leadington. I don't understand why there is such hatred between the towns.
Do you know the last time I asked, the Desloge water dept. had 20 some customers, not enough pressure to run Wal Marts sprinklers and was purging 1 million gallons a day???? What a waste.
The smart thing to do is Desloge and Park Hills join. THink of the benefits -
Full time Fire Dept = Lower Insurance for all citizens.
Joint water, streets, parks, etc.
2 highways accesses and an industrial park.
Within a few years, could very easily incorporate Leadington and have more highway than Farmington.
But, Desloge needs to be just like Leadington. I don't understand why there is such hatred between the towns.
Do you know the last time I asked, the Desloge water dept. had 20 some customers, not enough pressure to run Wal Marts sprinklers and was purging 1 million gallons a day???? What a waste.
tiredofthebull posted on Tuesday, October 21st, 2008 at 7:29 am
Just me - I have one question for you. As it's a prison, not a commercial business, how do they make revenue????
They don't sell anything.
You do have how many hundred people with stable jobs and benefits.. that's a heck of a boost to the local economy...
But it's not, all we have is Walmart so they are really just helping old Sam Walton out.
Prison's dont manufacture goods. They lock people up and spend tons of money to do it.
They don't sell anything.
You do have how many hundred people with stable jobs and benefits.. that's a heck of a boost to the local economy...
But it's not, all we have is Walmart so they are really just helping old Sam Walton out.
Prison's dont manufacture goods. They lock people up and spend tons of money to do it.
just me posted on Monday, October 20th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Where is all the revenue that should be coming in from the prison. I tried to post something earlier about this but apparently someone did not want it to be seen. Look at Potosi after the prison went in there. I will say no more.
Zip Line posted on Sunday, October 19th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Most of us are not against law enforcement. What we want is quality officers, not some second rate D average academy kid. Up the pay and get good officers. Bonne Terre would be a good city to start this trend.
Tired of people posted on Saturday, October 18th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Just because Park Hills has a water system in your community, you shouldn't be self sufficient? Guess we should just shut down all our oil wells because we have foreign countries to get oil from? Why are all the people around here so against law enforcement and so rebellious?
tiredofthebull posted on Friday, October 17th, 2008 at 7:34 am
Tired of People, I think it's great that Desloge gets the additional traffic.. maybe they can start writing tickets as well to pay for their 20 million dollar water system they didn't need.
Zip Line posted on Thursday, October 16th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
No, I have not been arrested. I just have to work AROUND those guys!
tiredofthebull posted on Thursday, October 16th, 2008 at 7:18 am
I think I figured it out. Bonne Terre has wanted business to come in for a while, but they can't. So instead of getting tax dollars, they will write tickets to trucks for using the wrong street to make the money..
Welcome to Bonne Leadington!!!
Welcome to Bonne Leadington!!!
Tired of people posted on Thursday, October 16th, 2008 at 12:45 am
Zip Line - boy, you are funny. Been arrested by BTPD?
Tired of people posted on Thursday, October 16th, 2008 at 12:45 am
They are talking about Orica, not Leadbelt Materials. Now any truck coming from Leadbelt Materials must use roads in Desloge. How is this fair to Desloge to double their truck traffic? I hope Greg Camp will call Mr. Gower and Mr. Barton about this.
anomalouspropagation posted on Wednesday, October 15th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
I feel many of you are missing the crucial point here and that is the "gov't decision". Here is a simple solution, but it cost a little more, like all worthwhile endeavors. When the council propses to asphalt something think of the local companies. Support them but support quality building materials as well. If I had a brain-said the tin man-I would build roads, frequented by heavy trucks, out of CONCRETE. Industrial parks, the old highways and other worthwhile endeavors similar to the GREAT WALL-not the restuarant, were built out of something similar called mortar and cement type material. All fair and equal, except the cost, the latter material withstands heat, weight and even abuse-but it costs more. The wise investment for the businesses is to make concrete roads where the trucks frequent. Common sense aint so common. Also, maintaining what you have is cheaper than neglecting them forever too. How about a truck route made out of concrete "partially" funded with business tax dollars so they get something in return except for more regulations. Who stepped on my shadow....
theboys2 posted on Wednesday, October 15th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
To Seriously, I don't believe you are right, the waiver is for ORICA, they are the only landlocked business. You should take your own advise and not comment unless you know what you are talking about. If Church Street is being torn up by trucks maybe you should talk to the contractor that installed the asphalt, because there are many streets that get much more truck traffic and they hold up very well. You can not judge all truck traffic because of the driving of a few. Where would you be without the big trucks? You would be sitting in your home with no gas, no electric, no food, with nothing, supply is all related to the trucking industry. Without trucks there is no development, period. Without development and expansion there is not town. Bonne Terre one step forward 10 steps back.
Zip Line posted on Wednesday, October 15th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
I wouldn't worry about getting a ticket, the BTPD never leave the station long enough.
skippy posted on Wednesday, October 15th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Please read the article before making a comment. You can still open a business anywhere in Bonne Terre and have a truck deliver to it. The truck itself will have to use the truck route in and out of town until it gets to the street the business is on and then take that street. Makes sense to me. Why repair all the streets with tax payer money when you can reduce the repairs to only a few streets. A lot of cities have this type of law. Go Bonne Terre!
seriously?!? posted on Wednesday, October 15th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
I live on Church Street in Bonne Terre. The city just spent thousands of dollars last year to re-do the entire street because it was in such terrible shape. And now, it is getting torn up by big trucks, who don't follow the speed limits. I can sit on my porch and see one pass at least every five minutes. The street is not designed to carry that type of traffic. And, for the record, the "land locked" business that has a waiver that was addressed in the article IS Lead Belt Materials. Until you know what you're talking about, you should keep your comments to yourself....
theboys2 posted on Wednesday, October 15th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
how are they going to pave these streets in Bonne Terre??? Are they going to use wheelbarrows since there is no more truck traffic in Bonne Terre?
theboys2 posted on Wednesday, October 15th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Bonne Terre where is your brains? I guess this is why Bonne Terre has all of these new businesses wanting to locate in Bonne Terre, NOT. Do the council not realize the tax revenue the trucks bring in by purchasing Diesel fuel and other items in Bonne Terre??? I am sure if Sharo wanted trucks on these streets that would be ok. How are you going to keep trucks that buy gravel and materials from Lead Belt Materials from coming through your city? Sounds like a lawsuit to me. Bonne Terre allways going backwards never moving forward.

